"yes if you take the definition loosely," ... how loosely does a dictionary definition count for in your mind? The phrase "to do something religiously" is BASED on the very definition I used. I've got to say, maybe it's because I write and read a lot, but I'm quite used to that context being used rather regularly. Perhaps that's just a difference in our backgrounds and schooling. Moving on.
"and still i say we invented it, it wasn't givn to us. but you said manufacturers so i am presuming you concede that point.' Actually, I could debate the entire concept of "man invents" vs. "god/gods give", but that would certainly have to happen AFTER any debate about the definitions of religion were put to rest, methinks. And, those concepts don't even have room for "discoveries" and how that comes into play when you're comparing theoligical gifts of concept, such as Prometheus' fire, against man's native ingenuity and the things he can create/invent from seemingly nothing. It is, however, neither here nor there for this debate. To be honest, I'm not sure which side I believe in more, so I can't rightly say if I think "we invented religion" or if it was "given to us" by a higher power. In my mind, there's too much evidence on both sides of that fence for me to choose easily. It was, however, easy to go with 'manufactured' for the purposes of my argument, so there you go.
"I would tend to say this is more of a term, naming a behavior more than actully inventing a concept." My knowledge of the history of religious isn't anywhere near complete enough to validate or negate this statement. Suffice it to say, though, that to me it's six in one hand and half a dozen on the other. :D "i agree with you there we need it, it helps us to be understood and feel secure," Groovy!
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Date: 2004-08-23 09:17 pm (UTC)... how loosely does a dictionary definition count for in your mind? The phrase "to do something religiously" is BASED on the very definition I used. I've got to say, maybe it's because I write and read a lot, but I'm quite used to that context being used rather regularly. Perhaps that's just a difference in our backgrounds and schooling. Moving on.
"and still i say we invented it, it wasn't givn to us. but you said manufacturers so i am presuming you concede that point.'
Actually, I could debate the entire concept of "man invents" vs. "god/gods give", but that would certainly have to happen AFTER any debate about the definitions of religion were put to rest, methinks. And, those concepts don't even have room for "discoveries" and how that comes into play when you're comparing theoligical gifts of concept, such as Prometheus' fire, against man's native ingenuity and the things he can create/invent from seemingly nothing. It is, however, neither here nor there for this debate. To be honest, I'm not sure which side I believe in more, so I can't rightly say if I think "we invented religion" or if it was "given to us" by a higher power. In my mind, there's too much evidence on both sides of that fence for me to choose easily. It was, however, easy to go with 'manufactured' for the purposes of my argument, so there you go.
"I would tend to say this is more of a term, naming a behavior more than actully inventing a concept."
My knowledge of the history of religious isn't anywhere near complete enough to validate or negate this statement. Suffice it to say, though, that to me it's six in one hand and half a dozen on the other. :D
"i agree with you there we need it, it helps us to be understood and feel secure,"
Groovy!